Subject: Interview with DJ Skribble
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The Surreal World:
With Strict Dedication & Some Out-of-the-Blue Luck, MTV’s Skribble Has Become America’s Most Visible DJ

Byline: By Brian O'Connor
Published: February 2000 by DJ Times Magazine

Scene 1:
New York City – “Look, it’s Skribble! Skribble!” scream a handful of teenage girls gathered in the unforgiving November cold outside MTV’s Times Square studio. Nearby, a tattooed man with dreadlocks and a kilt marches to the shrill bellow of his bagpipe. As they flock toward Skribble, the giggling teens beg for guest passes so they can see Korn, who are soon expected to drop in for an on-air chat. Just once, can a DJ get more respect than rock-n-roll’s biggest act?

Scene 2:
Clocking countless hours inside a Staten Island home studio, Skribble and partner Anthony Acid pre-record the set for MTV’s “Global Groove,” the hit show whose viewership exceeds six million – just picture the entire city of Chicago on the dancefloor. Upon noticing one of Skribble’s shirts lying on the floor, Acid threatens to toss his ass out the window. Can two DJ buddies – a hybrid of C+C Music Factory and The Odd Couple – collaborate on beats and rhythms and still live in harmony?

Scene 3:
In 1996, Hot 97’s Program Director, Steve Smith, offers Skribble a job as host of the New York radio station’s “Saturday Night Dance Party,” a four-hour live mix of hip hop and house. Skribble jumps at the chance. How can a former body-poppin’, Brooklyn B-boy raised on Erik B & Rakim and with little passion for house music pull this off?

Scene 4:
New Music Seminar, 1994. New York’s Chippendales club. Industry schmooze party. Stretch Armstrong is the scheduled DJ, but he’s MIA. Skribble is present and accounted for. Former Vice-President Dan Quayle once said that the key to American foreign policy could be summed up with two words: “To always be prepared.” Will Skribble be prepared? And if he is, how will it alter his career?

Scene 5:
In 1993, Skribble leaves the Young Black Teenagers, a group of young white teenagers signed to Hank Shocklee and Bill Stephney’s short-lived S.O.U.L. label. They enjoyed a one-hit wonder with “Tap the Bottle.” (While DJing that song live, Skribble would shake a 40-ounce bottle filled with apple juice to make it appear like malt liquor.) Why did Skribble leave? Will his betrayed homies ever speak to him again?

For answers to all of these questions and more, refer to the following pages.

DJ Times: I think every DJ out there is thinking of the same thing: How much freedom of music programming can you possibly have on MTV’s “Global Groove”?

Skribble: Well, when I first started, the programming was very mainstream. But [Executive Vice President of Programming] Brian Graden and the rest of the programming department have given me the creative freedom, not to go overboard, but they do trust my judgement. They know I’m in the clubs every night, so they know that I know what the kids are dancing to. But I also know we can’t go too far to the left, because we still want those kids that want to hear “Mambo No. 5” – and they’re out there. But [as for “Mambo No. 5”], I’ll get the right mix for the show, like maybe I’ll play a white label that works. You gotta still do that. I’m not at a rave. I’m on TV, and that’s mainstream.

DJ Times: So you’re in the position that most DJs are in: You have to introduce radical ideas to a mainstream audience.

Skribble: That’s it. You can teach the mainstream. People think that MTV is cool, and they think if MTV is playing it, it must be cool. It’s not that different than hip hop. When Young MC was out, it was all bubblegum, and everybody loved it. But then all of a sudden Cypress Hill came out, Naughty by Nature came out, they were both mainstream. Mobb Deep is mainstream. So what is mainstream? The whole idea is to progress and change with the times. Educate. Educate. It only takes a minute to teach somebody about change. But on MTV you spoon feed, and if they like it, the spoon gets bigger and bigger. Sometimes we’ll get shut down.

DJ Times: Do you mean MTV will shut you down?

Skribble: Not shut down. The cool thing here at MTV is they encourage creativity, and everybody encourages everybody else. They don’t want robots.

DJ Times: I’m sure that your MTV exposure has helped you book club gigs.

Skribble: It’s ridiculous, for me personally. But even generally, the DJ has been reborn. And I’m not saying that I’m responsible for certain things, but people use DJs on their TV shows now, and a lot of things are happening.

DJ Times: So a lot of these kids who come to see you play out at clubs, they don’t know the real Skribble, do they?

Skribble: A lot of the kids don’t know who I am, they think I’m some mainstream cat that’s just up there on TV playing records. They don’t know who I’ve worked with or what I’ve done. And people who have only seen me on MTV, and when they see me play live, some rave for 10,000 kids, and play nothing but hardcore trance and I pound them, they’re like, “We thought you were going to come and play some song by Cher.”

DJ Times: Let’s talk a little about who DJ Skribble is. You’re a New York guy who buried his head in hip hop most of his life, right?

Skribble: I’ve been DJing since I was 11. I got the name Skribble because I was into graffiti. In fact, I used to go bombing with Joey Beltram. We used to have a crew when we were in high school – he was in Queens and I was in Elmont, Long Island. By the end of high school, I had gotten into The Young Black Teenagers.

DJ Times: How did Young Black teenagers get together?

Skribble: ATA [Rodney Rivera] was my best friend and First Born used to go out with my sister. And I was supposed to just do music for the group, but then my manager at the time, Gary, said he wanted me to be the DJ.

DJ Times: And you were on Hank Shocklee’s label, right?

Skribble: Yeah, I already knew Hank, and Chuck [D], and Dre because they used to throw jams at the Roller Castle back in the days of Spectrum City at [Adelphi University’s] WBAU – that’s how I met Doctor Dre. I was 14-years-old, listening to the whole Wildman Steve, Spectrum City Flava Flav show, everything. Back then Chuck D was Chucky D and he used to read the news on Dre’s “Operating Room.” It was the sickest thing. And Flava was working for [Town of] Hempstead Sanitation Department, doing the radio show. This was, like, 1983.

DJ Times: They were playing electro and early hip hop?

Skribble: Oh, forget about it. Dre was the first person to interview Run-DMC on that type of level. And they played the whole album on the show, and that’s how I had the album before anybody else had it – we taped the whole thing. We were in our school lunchroom blasting the hell out if it. That was like a crazy great moment. And I used to pop, and the other kids used to break, and we had a show called the Spinmasters, and we did a show with the Disco Three, who later became the Fat Boys. Crazy.

DJ Times: So, at that time, you weren’t behind the decks – you were popping?

Skribble: I was so into hip hop. It was ridiculous. The only thing I didn’t do was rhyme – I was writing, I was DJing, I was b-boy down, in the true sense of what a b-boy was. I lived it a lot as we grew up, and it was the best time for hip hop, the late ’80s. I didn’t listen to anything else. I was totally New York hip hop. Erik B and Rakim, and earlier it was the Cold Crush tapes, the Fantastic Five, all the crazy shit I had. I lived for it. There was nothing else but that. Plus [what I was doing] was against every Italian thing that I ever knew. When I moved into Brooklyn, they didn’t like the hip hop too much.

DJ Times: Who was your DJing mentor?

Skribble: A friend of mine in Brooklyn, Squiggy. He was the local DJ hero, doing all the parties, and I thought he was the coolest. When I was 11, I asked my dad for turntables and we couldn’t afford the crazy stuff – back then it was the SLB-1, and SLB-10s. Those were the turntables you needed to have. I had the SLB-100, with a straight arm, with the rubber band, and if you pressed down too hard the plate would stop because it would stop the motor, with an ELI Mixer. I had to learn how to cut on that. It was just terrible. You’d have to put so much weight on top of the needles. But I’d practice with them in my room. I couldn’t afford a sound system, and I didn’t know anything about sound, so I took whatever radio I had and ripped speakers out of old TVs and put them in little boxes and put all these little speakers around. I had it all hooked up wrong, so I had this crazy buzz and this crazy hum and I’d blow out speakers because I didn’t know the difference between line and phono.

DJ Times: DJing back then was obviously in its primitive stage.

Skribble: Back then, there were no DJing tricks. Most of the kids who are doing that crazy stuff today weren’t even born – not to date myself, but it’s true. In 1984, there were two people: Clark Kent and [EPMD’s] DJ Scratch, and I bow down to them.

DJ Times: Why was Clark Kent your idol?

Skribble: His whole style and flair about him at that time. He was also playing house and breaking into a lot of different things. Back then, it wasn’t so much hip hop as it was everything we could take – classics, breakbeat stuff. The DJ thing was the key to the party. And then as I started to get older, I met people like Kool Herc and Bambaataa, became close with the Zulu Nation, and would spin at their anniversaries, and then I hooked with Crazy Legs and the Rock Steady crew. He put me in as a DJ. It was all these hip-hop things that I was growing up with and then all of a sudden I was living it. I used to go to Run-DMC shows, the “Raising Hell Tour,” and now I know them and I work with them. I’m still a big fan, so it’s the sickest thing to me. I’d be doing Zulu Nation anniversaries and I’d start doing my tricks…

DJ Times: What kind of DJing tricks?

Skribble: It was the basics. Back then, it was all about speed – who could go the fastest. It was “Good Times” flashing back and forth and then cutting.

DJ Times: I guess there was no transformer scratching back then.

Skribble: It was very primitive. Jazzy Jeff pretty much took that scratch and brought it to the mainstream, him and Cash Money, so they’re the two that I look to, and they changed the game. Every year someone in the DMC would change the game and made DJing more and more of what it became. When Cash Money won in England, it was the transformer scratch that did it. He came out and he did the get down-thing from LL Cool J, “Call me a sucker boy, s-s-s-s-sucker boy,” and then everybody went home and practiced that routine. And then we came up with our own routines. Now the game is so different.

DJ Times: That was the dawn of the turntablist.

Skribble: Yeah. I’m not a turntablist; I’m a DJ. I have so much respect and admiration for the kids who are doing [turntablism]. I came from a whole different time. But I can cut, I can scratch, and I can still do battle tricks.

DJ Times: What are some of your favorite battle tricks.

Skribble: During the Young Black Teenagers, I was on tour with PE, EPMD and The Afros, and I was doing shit behind my back, under my leg, a little beat juggling. A lot of body tricks. That was my forte: Skribble can do sick body tricks. And then DJ Scratch gave me the idea, a long time ago, the rotation thing, when we go around each other on the same turntables. That was his thing. He gave that to us and I started doing it with Slynke and I know the X-Men do it now, but it’s a real old trick. We’d spin off each other. A lot of the tricks are so old; you just have to re-invent them.

DJ Times: You hardly ever see the body trick thing nowadays.

Skribble: Now the body trick thing isn’t so big, because it’s more about the art of cutting and scratching, and who can cut and flare, one-cut flares, two-cut flares, crabs, orbits and babies. Q-Bert and those guys have just re-invented the whole thing. It’s so sick. I like to play, and in the middle of my night I’ll get a little nuts and just do my thing. That’s the difference between a turntablist and a DJ. No disrespect to a turntablist, but you can’t put them in a club for four hours and let them play. You put them on stage there for 30 minutes and they’ll put your mouth to the floor, but after that… I took pride in being able to cut, scratch, blend and getting into all sorts of music.

DJ Times: That’s one of the peculiar things about you: you’re a hip-hop junkie who got into playing house music. A real throwback.

Skribble: I liked the old Todd Terry house, and then it started getting all soulful and I got out of it. It was in and out for me, flash in the pan, and then I went back into my hip hop thing, and that was the whole party era, “Tap the Bottle,” “Jump Around,” “Hip Hop Hooray,” that was a fun time for hip hop and I was totally into that.

DJ Times: You said the toughest thing you ever had to do was to leave the Young Black Teenagers. Why?

Skribble: I knew it was time when we were going to pick the second single from the second album. We had graduated from four of us staying in one hotel room on tour, to Hotel Nico. We wanted to go with a song “Blowing Up The Spot” – and this is before the old school thing was big. This was 1993, and Hank Shocklee wanted to release “Roll With the Flava.” I was like, “What are you nuts? That’s stupid.” But he had ways of manipulating stuff, and we knew the song was not the one, but we wound up releasing “Roll With the Flava.” I don’t know why they did a lot of the things they did, honestly. There were a lot of poor decisions. It was the typical first-group thing. We even signed our first deal without any lawyers – we got a pack of Newports and Puma sweats. Typical, first-group, let’s get jerked let’s make a record. And we got royally screwed. In the end, the group saw things one way and I saw things another way.

DJ Times: It’s every hip-hop DJ’s dream to be in a rap band.

Skribble: It was weird, ’cause they kind of turned their backs on me and for a long time they didn’t talk to me. I still don’t speak to First Born. Camron, I speak to once in a while. I guess they were thinking I’d fall flat on my face. There I was, five years I was on the road and I was baling out on it. Then it got really rough.

DJ Times: How tough did it get?

Skribble: I had been living with First Born, in Brooklyn, and when I left the group I had to leave his apartment. And there are two types of Italian fathers: there’s the Italian father who says that no matter what happens you can come home at any time. Then there’s the other type. The other type says, “Once you’ve flown the coop, you’ve flown the coop. Now you make it.” I respect him for that. I respect him for a lot of things that I didn’t know at the time.

DJ Times: Sounds like a tough-love sort of thing.

Skribble: Not really. He felt one way. He thought I should get a real job. And I felt another way. I wanted to do music. I couldn’t even think about doing anything else, which was weird. He was a singer in a doo-wop group. Now he doesn’t even have an identity – he’s Skribble’s father and he’s the proud dad, which is great. But it was tough. I was living in my apartment, and I didn’t have any dough, trying to get by. I was making $75 to DJ in a club, any club, and I didn’t care. I just knew that I had to bury myself in the streets and in the clubs.

DJ Times: Were you getting club work in Manhattan?

Skribble: I was DJing clubs in Long Island because I couldn’t get gigs in Manhattan. I DJed every club imaginable on Long Island.

DJ Times: So industry-wise, your break came how?

Skribble: It was at the New Music Seminar, and Stretch Armstrong was supposed to DJ for an industry party at the old Chippendales. For some reason, he couldn’t make it, and, thankfully, I used to keep my records in the trunk of my car. I happened to be at the right place at the right time, and that’s how record companies [became aware of me]. If I was lucky, they knew me as Skribble from the Young Black Teenagers – if that. And they saw me do my tricks and stuff, some crazy stuff, and people, I guess, were like, “He’s good.” And then I started doing clubs in New York.

DJ Times: Still all hip hop you’re playing at this point?

Skribble: All hip hop. It wasn’t until I got on Hot 97 that I started playing house music again – in, like, 1995. But before that I started working at Big Beat Records, doing record promotion and college radio.

DJ Times: How did you take to working at a record label?

Skribble: It was miserable. I loved to perform. I loved to DJ. I would take a group out on the road, like Artifacts, and I’d end up DJing for them. That part of it was cool. And I was still doing all the Rock Steady stuff and Zulu Nation anniversaries, and I was doing college radio at Hofstra and Adelphi – and Dre and I were still good friends. And then me and Slynke started doing stuff together, because he was getting better and better.

DJ Times: DJ Slynke is your partner in hip hop, right?

Skribble: Yeah. Slynke used to come to a club called Industry in Long Island, and he would just watch me DJ. I started to teach him a lot of stuff and now he’s like a Q-Bert crazed nasty – he’s that sick. He’s invented scratches. He’s an amazing turntablist, but he can also play parties – although he hates it ’cause he’d rather battle. He’s such a confident DJ that he’ll say, “Give me two records that you used and I’ll use them.” And he’ll adapt and do it. Actually, we didn’t talk for a while, because when I left the Teenagers he replaced me and I guess I felt a little betrayed by that. But he had to do what he had to do, and now it’s great.

DJ Times: You were doing some fill-in work at Hot 97.

Skribble: Yeah, I was doing stuff with Dre and he let me fill in on the “Traffic Jam” in the morning, and he asked me to do the final, final episode of “Yo MTV Raps.” It was my first time on MTV. I DJed for Rakim and KRS-One – they were freestyling. It was unbelievable. I got on Hot 97 after that. [Hot 97’s] Steve Smith asked me to do “Saturday Night Dance Party,” which was a live broadcast from a club, for four hours, from 10 to 2, hip hop and house. The only problem was I didn’t know too much house music at that time.

DJ Times: So you took the job at Hot 97, but you didn’t know too much house music. Sounds like a problem.

Skribble: Yes. I was good friends with Razor – I grew up with him and had known him since he was 16, and he was the nastiest house DJ. When I did my first “Saturday Night Dance Party” on Hot 97, I bought him with me, because I didn’t know what the hell I was going to do. He had all the house records and he would hand me the records. I could mix, that was the easy part, but I had no idea what to play. Even after I started doing Hot 97, I still didn’t really like house music.

DJ Times: What was it about the music that you did not like?

Skribble: I don’t know. I was so tunnel-vision to the hip hop thing at the time, and then they took me to The Tunnel and that’s when I heard Junior [Vasquez] play, New York-style. It was just the sickest revelation of a night I ever had. That’s when I realized there was a whole world to DJing that I didn’t know about. That’s when I decided I wanted to do both. It’s so cool because I’ve gotten to live two separate lives. I’ve lived the hip-hop life and I’ve gotten to live the whole dance life equally, and I have respect for both sides. Usually, either you’re a hip-hop DJ or you’re a house DJ, there’s no in-between. Also, the clubs are segregated, too. If it was a house club, it had a little tiny hip-hop room; if it was a hip-hop club, it had a little tiny house room. Back in the early ’90s, it was different. It was everything.

DJ Times: Like an outgrowth of Larry Levan, who’d play The Clash and…

Skribble: Yeah, like if you went to listen to Louie Vega, he would play dance music all night and then all of a sudden at 2 in the morning he’d go into all these breaks and everybody would start breaking on the dancefloor. It was nuts – you got everything in a club. The whole club thing went through a dark period, like hip hop became all gangsta and all the DJs got quiet. Then the music changed again and the tempo came back up and it was cool to dance again. You used to go to the hip-hop clubs in 1993, 1994, and it was like people standing against the wall. They were too cool to dance. And now it’s great again in the clubs. People are dancing.

DJ Times: After seeing Junior, you dove right into the house thing.

Skribble: Before Junior, Razor was helping me out with house; after Junior, instead of Razor saying, “Do you have this? Do you have this?” I would say to him, “Yo! You got this?” That’s the way I do things. If I’m going to do something, I’m 100-percent.

DJ Times: Still, though, there’s quite a different vibe for a DJ to start playing house music after playing hip hop for so long.

Skribble: It’s two different energies, from hip hop to house. When I’m playing hip hop, I slam everything and there’s so much reaction. With house, you’re taking them on a whole ride, and you play for eight hours and you can take them wherever the hell you want to go – get dark, get trancey, get progressive, everywhere. It was a whole new energy that I discovered. It’s cool. I got three turntables in front of me, a Denon 2500, ’cause I got a lot of unreleased stuff that I burn on to CD – which I first didn’t like, but acetates cost too much – and I have a little sampler, the Roland Boss [SP-202 Dr. Sample].

DJ Times: In terms of what you do behind the decks for a hip-hop set and a house set, what are the differences?

Skribble: I noticed my approach changed when I started doing raves. The first one I did was at The Roxy, warming up for the Chemical Brothers, and that was really cool. I started cutting over house music, and at a rave that’s acceptable; at a club, it’s not. If you’re playing at a club in New York, they want it all tribal and you won’t cut. But at a rave, it’s cool. Me and Johnny Vicious would go and do raves, and I’d bring Slynke, and all of a sudden we’d have six turntables. Johnny would be playing house, playing his trance set, and then he’d break down into some crazy breaks, and then me and Slinky would start going at it scratching. And the crowd would go nuts.

DJ Times: Besides house and hip hop, you’ve also done some DJ battling with metal bands.

Skribble: When I was on tour with Public Enemy, I DJed with Anthrax and Primus. [Primus bassist] Les [Claypool] and I would come out every night and battle each other: he would play the bass and I would cut. And then I would make up stuff and try to get sounds that would imitate his bass, transformer sounds at different pitches, and the crowd would just go nuts.

DJ Times: You’ve issued four Traffic Jams records, two of them hip hop, the others house.

Skribble: I do all the hip hop with DJ Slynke. On Traffic Jams 2000 (Warlock), for instance, we recorded all brand new music with AZ, Common, Kurupt, and then pressed everything to vinyl, and then did it DJ style. A lot of people make mix CDs, but it’s new music that’s been edited together, with no scratching, no nothing. How can you call that a mix? It’s not mixed; there’s no DJing. Even hip hop got lame for a while, everybody was rhyming off of DAT, then all of a sudden they started seeing alternative groups using a DJ in their show, so the DJ is back and alive in hip hop. It’s weird. The DJ is supposed to be the main part of what they do. That was one thing about the Teenagers – we never went off a DAT. Our first show was nothing but breakbeats – 27 breakbeats in a12-minute show, two DJs.

DJ Times: And Anthony Acid is your partner in house music on the MDMA (Warlock) albums. You two are cooped up together in the studio quite a bit. I hear you’re a bit of a slob. Is that true?

Skribble: [Laughs] Anthony Acid is an old man. You would think he’s 75-years old. He’s the most anal person you’ll ever meet in your life, and he smokes 60 packs of cigarettes a day. If the plate setting is not in the exact diameter of the circumference in proportion to the table, he’ll have a fit. There’s a difference between being nice and neat and being obsessively obsessive. But I love him to death, and behind the boards, in terms of programming, he’s got a sick ear.

DJ Times: So tell us, finally, how did MTV select you for “Global Groove”?

Skribble: MTV was having Spring Break in 1998, they asked me if I wanted to do “The Grind” in Jamaica, which was cool because I could play hip hop and house. I went down there, and I did my thing, entertaining people. My whole thing is to get the reaction from the crowd, and I got the reaction from the crowd. And MTV didn’t have a slot for me, but they did have an exercise show called “The Daily Burn,” which I did for one summer. At the end of the summer, MTV asked me if I wanted to do “MTV Jams,” because [Funkmaster] Flex was supposed to do it – he had done it all summer, but for whatever reason it didn’t happen. So that’s how I got to do “MTV Jams” and then after that they gave me “Global Groove.” It’s all been unbelievable. If this were taken away from me tomorrow, I’d still be the luckiest guy around. I’ve never done anything else but DJ, and I consider all of this a gift.

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